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30 . At 2:27 PM on Dec 14, 2007, Mikael Grev DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:
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Re: THIS Would Excite Me

It mentioned "3D" in a single bullet at the end. That could mean anything. Will scene graph be in the JDK or as a X MB add-on?

But you are right, I should keep my mouth shut and just hope for the best. It has gone so great up until now for desktop Java. The single largest language in the world and hardly any public apps written in it. Applets have all but died and there aren't many that is on Sun's side in the battle for RIA. I guess they are doing the right thing and need no opinion from outside?
Mikael Grev (grev at miginfocom dot com)
MiG Java Calendar Component, MiG Layout for Swing/SWT (Vote -> JDK)
31 . At 9:21 PM on Dec 14, 2007, Mike P wrote:
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Re: THIS Would Excite Me

Oh no, offering opinions is where we discover many points of view. That's the good part.
I find most people here actually really great, and find the different aspects people offer very educational.
I sometimes question though if we are making as much progress as we could. I wish that we would achieve a better level of consensus from those arguments.
Better follow up would be helpful in making it clear what things look like AFTER considering and consolidating the different views.

So I guess with being negative I meant that it seems negative (to me), to just stubbornly throw in an opinion and then defend that view to no end without willing to find common ground or a constructive outcome.
32 . At 10:22 PM on Dec 14, 2007, Richard Bair DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:
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> It mentioned "3D" in a single bullet at the end. That
> could mean anything. Will scene graph be in the JDK
> or as a X MB add-on?

3D is the plan. Will any of the scene graph make it into the JDK? It has not yet been decided if, or when, but it is certainly what we hope to do. What we definitely DON'T want to do is jump the gun and put it in before it is ready.

Relax Mikael. I think you are going to be very pleased.

Richard
33 . At 10:22 PM on Dec 14, 2007, Tom wrote:
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Re: This would not excite me

You have to sign the SCA and that has some legal and ownership ramifications. So long as you're agreeable to those conditions then you're good to go.

Specifically, you mean that I have to be agreeable to giving Sun commercial rights to my contributions while Sun doesn't give me commercial rights to the JDK.
34 . At 3:11 AM on Dec 15, 2007, Dmitri Trembovetski DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:
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Re: This would not excite me

> Specifically, you mean that I have to be agreeable to giving Sun commercial rights to my contributions while Sun doesn't give me commercial rights to the JDK.

Could you explain how you arrived at this conclusion?

Redhat seems to have no problem shipping IceTea
(an openjdk derivative) in their product.

And you do retain the rights to your code. By signing
the SCA you're sharing them, not giving them away.

Dmitri
Java2D Team Sun Microsystems, Inc
35 . At 9:31 PM on Jan 29, 2008, ABBEY wrote:
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Re: THIS Would Excite Me

To be honest,I don't see PDFS are sexy at any point.
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