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45 . At 11:12 AM on Dec 22, 2007, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

Hi guys,

I did not know how to help with this exam at first, because the term "Ajax" did sound fuzzy to me.
In the meanwhile, I've done some complex javascript using jQuery (and Ajax) on a project.

Now, I re-read this thread and I think that I've found what's wrong. I think that Ajax simply just does not exist as a technology.

There is JavaScript.

  • The language (functions, variables, if statement,...)

  • DOM manipulation native functions

  • Remote communication ("Ajax") native functions



There are also frameworks that helps doing DOM manipulation and remote communication (+ many other stuff).

That's probably why Amzad inserted frameworks in it's first versions on the exam objectives.

I suggest that we don't create an Ajax exam, but an Ajax group of exams (it's probably worth since as Amazd noticed, that thread/technology is popular). That group would probably include

  • JavaScript Core - Basic

  • JavaScript Core - Advanced (with closures and so on)

  • JavaScript DOM Manipulation

  • JavaScript Remoting

  • jQuery - Basic (from Valentin)

  • framework X

  • framerowk Y



And we get rid of the fuzzy part of the objectives (like "understand the advantages of Ajax) that would lead to controversial questions and claims.

I'm ready to help by putting some hours in my planning next week to write part of the JavaScript objectives.

Kind regards.
John.
JavaBlackBelt.com
46 . At 10:19 PM on Dec 22, 2007, Chinh Nguyen wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

I like the idea, John. Everything's much clearer now.
But I have a feeling that we should not include everything about Javascript, as most of the time we only need XMLHttpRequest and DOM. Maybe make Javascript a new group, just like the current XML group is for.
Brown Belt #1450799
47 . At 3:45 PM on Dec 23, 2007, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

You are logical.
For "marketing" reasons, I would propose to put everything in an "Ajax" group to start. When we'll have too many non-Ajax JavaScript exams, we can split the group.
JavaBlackBelt.com
48 . At 5:38 AM on Dec 27, 2007, Amzad Basha wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

Hi John,

Its glad to see your final comments on this thread.

Its really a great idea to come up with "Ajax" group of exams instead of "Ajax" exam alone.

Hope, we will see a new group of exams in 2008 on JBB.

Cheers!!!

Amzad Basha.
49 . At 3:48 PM on Dec 27, 2007, Henryk Konsek wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

In conclusion :)

Amzad, could you point me the final link to the draft renamed/changed according to the John's remarks? I'll create the exam then. You must guide me since I'm not an AJAX expert so I am not sure what should be the name of the final exam :)

Best regards.
http://jheniu.blogspot.com http://www.javablackbelt.com/UserView.wwa?userId=3523423
50 . At 3:51 PM on Dec 27, 2007, Henryk Konsek wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

Correct me if I'm wrong :)

I should create the main big AJAX category with subcategory (exam)'AJAX basic' with the following content:

http://www.javablackbelt.com/WikiPage.wwa?page=ExamAJAX

Yes? :)
http://jheniu.blogspot.com http://www.javablackbelt.com/UserView.wwa?userId=3523423
51 . At 6:13 AM on Dec 28, 2007, Amzad Basha wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

Yes Henryk. :)
52 . At 5:20 PM on Dec 28, 2007, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

No Henryk.

Sorry Amzad.

I've not been clear.
After having seen the objectives and the discussion around it, and after having done some Ajax programming myself, I don't see Ajax as a technology. I don't see how we can build an exam around it. If we do that, we'll be vague and cross many borders (Java-Php, JavaScript-Http,...).
I see Ajax more as a concept supported by technologies like JavaScript. So, to start, we'll have a JavaScript exam and a jQuery exam grouped in an Ajax group.

What do you think ?

John.
JavaBlackBelt.com
53 . At 1:41 AM on Dec 31, 2007, Amzad Basha wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

Exam Group Name: AJAX
Exams are as follows:
# JavaScript Core - Basic
# JavaScript Core - Advanced (with closures and so on)
# JavaScript DOM Manipulation
# JavaScript Remoting
# jQuery - Basic
# Frame work X
# Frame work Y

John, this is what you were asking to have a new group of exams. Right?

If yes, Me and Henryk understood correct I guess.

thanks,
Amzad Basha.
54 . At 2:50 AM on Dec 31, 2007, Valentin Crettaz wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

FYI, I'm also working on a "jQuery - Advanced" exam ;)
55 . At 11:45 AM on Jan 5, 2008, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

You are correct, Amzad.
JavaBlackBelt.com
56 . At 2:12 AM on Jan 22, 2008, Amzad Basha wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

Henryk,

Are we creating the group of AJAX with the list of exams discussed above?

If you are done, please post a news about it as well. So that the users will try to contribute the questions into the respective exams.

thanks,
Amzad Basha.
57 . At 7:57 AM on Feb 18, 2008, Amzad Basha wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

Henryk,

Under which exam, we can accommodate the following objectives, written earlier for AJAX - Basic exam?

http://www.javablackbelt.com/WikiPage.wwa?page=ExamAJAX

thanks,
Amzad Basha.
58 . At 3:20 PM on Mar 6, 2008, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: AJAX - Basic Exam Objectives

I think, Amzad, that you'll find these objectives scattered in different exams (like "JavaScript remoting", or "GWT - Basic", or "DWR - Basic", ...).
JavaBlackBelt.com
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