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New Moderation

At 7:35 PM on May 20, 2005, John Rizzo wrote:

This thread is targeted to JBB moderators (but you are welcome to participate if you are not).


As some of you have noticed, we changed the moderation facility.

Now, every moderator technically can moderate any question from any category (including the belt exam, see my other thread on belts - http://www.javalobby.org/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=18807 )

I've added a page on the site to briefly explain what I think a moderator's work is: http://www.javablackbelt.com/jbb/WikiPage.do?action=view&page=HowToModerate

Any suggestion and comment is welcome.

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1 . At 5:38 AM on May 26, 2005, NOEL C BRANZUELA wrote:
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Re: New Moderation

Ooh..

I've been busy.. And when I got back to my moderation page, I was confused why some questions are listed in my page.

Ok, so this is the reason. Thank John.

By the way, while I attempted to moderate some of the questions in my list, I got this NullPointerExceptions, but it seems that the question is gone once I clicked submit.

Anyway, thanks.

-Noel Branzuela
Noel C. Branzuela
2 . At 8:47 AM on May 26, 2005, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: New Moderation

Yes, Noel.
This looks to be a problem with the mailing system.
The question has been moderated but the mail not sent I guess.

Aymeric told he would fix it this evening.
I would advice to not moderate questions for the next 12h, to leave a chance for the mail target to recieve it.
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3 . At 8:49 AM on May 26, 2005, John Rizzo wrote:
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Next Moderation Features ?

Anyway, I feel that the moderation facility needs improvement.

Any suggestion is welcome (I've got mine but I'd prefer to have yours first). We'll implement them early in July, but we first need to setup a priority list (I'll make a wiki page from the suggestions on this thread).
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4 . At 1:28 PM on May 26, 2005, Alwin Ibba DeveloperZone Top 100 wrote:
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Re: Next Moderation Features ?

It's getting more and more difficult to overlook all the questions. I even cannot remember if I've covered something that comes to my mind with an older question (or if I should author a new one). Not to mention other peoples questions when searching for duplicates.

So I vote for an advanced full text search facility. Something like "give me all questions of user x for the last two weeks containing the text transaction".

IMHO a list view where I can see all (new/by category) questions including the question text would be useful. The text is short in most cases and the description is not really meaningful often.

For every list view (including search results) there should be some kind of browse facility (displaying 50 questions per page with arrows to go back and forward). Perhaps the questions should be fetched per page (it may take long to load them all).

I would prefer a read-only question view. When I look for duplicate questions I have to click "moderate" or "update" and have to take care not to change something accidentally (i.e. doing cancel). A view where I can't change anything would be helpful, perhaps with a button or link making it writeable. Maybe the id number can be a link going to a read-only question overview.

Maybe a feature to search and contact users would be nice too (not only for moderators).

I think there's also some work that has to be done for the belt exam infrastructure.

I also have some suggestions for question authors:

When I say "Add questions"-> "EJBs" -> "Multiple choice, single answer" and then change my mind and want to author a "Multiple choice, multiple answer" question, there's no back button and cancel goes to the user home page. That's a bit annoying. On the page for the question type, a back button would be helpful too (if I click "EJBs" and recognize then, that "EJBs/Session Beans" would be more appropriate, I also have to go back to the user home page).

I think it should be possible to upload images for questions (I already mentioned that in a previous email). UML questions without an auxiliary image are difficult to formulate and also for patterns and architectures it is useful.

Ok, that's my wishlist for now :-)

Alwin
5 . At 4:55 PM on May 26, 2005, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Next Moderation Features ?

I completely agree. It should be quick to develop (in July).

We already made tests with lucene and the result page after passing a questionnaire is already a kind of listing with question texts (needs to be improved/condensed).

I would add the following features:

- We already know the amount of questions posted by users. I'd like to also see the amount of moderated questions per moderator.

- The category selection list when entering a new question is flat level and ugly. We'll arrange that.

- We should lock a question when a moderator is busy on it (no there is no concurrency protection mechanism for this, sorry).

- It should be easy to find somebody active on the system (somone with many questions authored, with some belt level, participating to contests, currently on-line, etc) and have some way propose some interraction with him.


For the moment, our main priorities are to provide in July:
- exam system
- competition system
- question comment (integrated forum) system
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6 . At 10:23 PM on May 26, 2005, NOEL C BRANZUELA wrote:
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Re: Next Moderation Features ?

When the number of questions grows, how can we be sure that the question is not a duplicate of the previous.

I suggest we think something finer in tagging each question, which the moderator can manage.

For example, if the question is for SessionBean Home Interface, we should be able to place some TAG to it. And be able to see questions with the same TAG. And change the TAG to approriate TAG if necessary just to group related question together within SUB CATEGORY.

We can limit questions for each TAG to 10. By then finer management of each question can be seen in a group of ten.

The current grouping by subcategory is enough for this time, but when the questions grow by hundreds, I don't think we can easily manage it.
Noel C. Branzuela
7 . At 4:46 AM on May 27, 2005, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Next Moderation Features ?

Yes.

When you have 5 questions in a sub-sub category and the random questionnaire has to pick up 3 of them; you would not be lucky if 2 of the 3 selected are very similar.

Example:
Question1: Please enter the name of the package where Collection, ArrayList and Iterator classes are difined
Input: _______________

Question 2: In which packagage are Collection and ArrayList defined ?
o java.lang
o java.util
o java.collection
o java.util.colleciton

I would keep both questions, but prevent the questionnaire generator to select both of them in the same questionnaire.

It should be indeed possible to "group" them.


It is bound to yet another problem: some questions should belong to multiple categories.
For example, a question from the SCJP category might be suitable for the yellow belt exam, and for the general J2SE category.
For the moment, the proposed solution is to allow binding questions to multiple categories.

John.
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