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Ruby Basic Exam objectives

At 2:02 AM on Mar 28, 2006, Dmitry Buzdin wrote:

Please review the early version of Ruby Basic exam objectives and categories .

I will read everything one more time myself and will try to make the language more natural (and correct) later today. Need to know Your opinion 'bout the content.
1 . At 4:51 AM on Mar 28, 2006, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

To me it looks excellent, Dmitry.

I suggest that you ask a few Ruby specialists opinion (through you Ruby channels), and give me the signal to create the exam in the DB.

John.
JavaBlackBelt.com
2 . At 5:25 AM on Mar 28, 2006, Dmitry Buzdin wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

Will do that.

One more thing.

I want to put questions into exam myself, but who will be the moderator for me? Any Ruby users amongst JBB moderators, even with basic knowledge?
3 . At 6:25 AM on Mar 28, 2006, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

With YAMP, the crowd (of Ruby users) will moderate your questions (and other's questions).

http://www.javablackbelt.com/WikiPage.do?action=view&page=AboutYamp
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4 . At 10:06 AM on Mar 29, 2006, Dmitry Buzdin wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

I have my objectives and categories checked and corrected.

You may see the discussion here:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/browse_thread/thread/48a5cf151d4abc87/d1b9fd71d3bd10dc?lnk=raot#d1b9fd71d3bd10dc

I wonder how Ruby code will be displayed in questions?
We have [CODE:JAVA] templates. What about [CODE:RUBY]?

Will the Ruby exams be separated from Java? You get knowledge points for passing Ruby exam to get a Java black belt? I think that it is OK for the tiny Ruby Basic, but what is going to happen in the future?

Dmitry
5 . At 4:57 AM on Mar 30, 2006, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

> I have my objectives and categories checked and
> corrected.

Thanks. Bruno will add the exam today.

> You may see the discussion here:
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/browse_t
> hread/thread/48a5cf151d4abc87/d1b9fd71d3bd10dc?lnk=rao
> t#d1b9fd71d3bd10dc


Wow!
I guess that none of them is going to accept a job in the army ;-)
It is interesting to see the "outsider" culture of the Ruby community.

Probably that the "black belt", which refers to martial arts, which may refer (Japanese) to patience and discipline, doesn't help. Probably something like www.RubyFunGameLove.org may be more appropriate than www.RubyBlackBelt.com. It would dissolve the BlackBelt brand but why not, if it's really more suitable.

The best attitude is probably to do it and see what happens. Something is sure: there should be no trick question in the Basic exam. They probably don't know it but we created JavaBlackBelt because we don't agree with the scope of the certitifications like SCJP, finding it not appropriate for most professional situations.


> I wonder how Ruby code will be displayed in
> questions?
> We have [CODE:JAVA] templates. What about
> [CODE:RUBY]?

We use a java library to highlight the java synthax.
I don't know if it's capable of something for Ruby.
Else we'd have to use no highlight (just courrier font).

Anyway, we'll implement [CODE:RUBY], I've entered a change request for the programmers. Use it already in your questions even if it displays badly.


> Will the Ruby exams be separated from Java? You get
> knowledge points for passing Ruby exam to get a Java
> black belt? I think that it is OK for the tiny Ruby
> Basic, but what is going to happen in the future?

We have a system of track.
The Belts grades is one track.
We'll create a Ruby track when we'll have 2 Ruby exams.
We'll change the platform so non Ruby exams do not count for Java Belts and Java exams do not count for Ruby grades.

For the grades (levels), we me have another brand than belts.
Something related to jewellery for example.


Later (July), if it looks promizing, we may set-up and give you the control of a www.RubyBlackBelt.com site :-)

John.
JavaBlackBelt.com
6 . At 2:35 AM on Apr 4, 2006, Dmitry Buzdin wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

I still don't see the exam in the list. Or may be I am just missing something?
7 . At 5:48 PM on Apr 5, 2006, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

Sorry Dmitry, I've sent a recall mail, you should have that tomorrow (Thursday).
JavaBlackBelt.com
8 . At 6:01 AM on Apr 6, 2006, Bruno Dusausoy wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

It's added. Really sorry for the delay.

Mea Culpa ;)
9 . At 10:46 AM on Apr 6, 2006, Dmitry Buzdin wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

Thanks!

I will start filling exam with questions soon.
But [CODE:RUBY] style tag does not work yet.
A simple highlighting of keywords would be enough to start with. I could send a list of Ruby syntax keywords if it will help.
10 . At 4:53 PM on Apr 6, 2006, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

Hi Dmitry,

Please use the [CODE:RUBY] tag in your questions even if it does not work yet :-)
Programmers will contact you to tell what they need.
JavaBlackBelt.com
11 . At 4:07 AM on May 3, 2006, Dmitry Buzdin wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

I have uploaded my photo, so feel free to post the news about the Ruby exam :)

It already has first contributors without Ruby community knowing about it.

I will start working on the next level of Ruby exam soon.

Is it possibble to cut down question number to 35. We could cut down Ruby::Mix category to 3 questions.

I think 40 questions is too scary for "Basic" exam :) and it should be a little shorter.

And We need that [CODE:RUBY] tag realization :) (Even if the only thing it does is numbering code lines and text alignment)
People starting to complain that the questions are looking far more better without non-working tags.
12 . At 4:43 PM on May 3, 2006, John Rizzo wrote:
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Re: Ruby Basic Exam objectives

> I have uploaded my photo, so feel free to post the
> news about the Ruby exam :)

You are on the home page. For the next 24h, only the moderators see it.

> I will start working on the next level of Ruby exam
> soon.

You are welcome.

> Is it possibble to cut down question number to 35. We
> could cut down Ruby::Mix category to 3 questions.

It's done.


> And We need that [CODE:RUBY] tag realization :)

I've sent a mail to the concerned programmer and the architect. They reply in this thread tomorrow. They redeploy tomorrow (I hope with the tag).
JavaBlackBelt.com

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