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At 4:42 PM on Sep 7, 2006, Michael Urban wrote:
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"You can imagine how excited I am about this opportunity, and how pleased I am to know that Sun takes Ruby so seriously", said Nutter. "Not only will I get to work on the project I've poured my heart into this past year, but I'll be able to do it while helping one of my favorite companies turn a technological corner. Naturally I've been talking with a myriad of folks at Sun over the past several weeks, so believe me when I say these guys really get it. The tide has turned and dynamic languages are on everyone's agenda. It's going to be quite a ride."
It will definitely be interesting to see where Sun goes with this, now that Ruby has basically become the first "official" language supported by Sun on the JVM.
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Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
Wow, I never saw it coming.Actually this is very, very exciting.
Although I hope they will also sponsor other projects like PNuts, or, I don't know, Groovy or Jython.
I would also like to see sponsored a static-typed language, that's wrist friendly, like Boo.
Interesting times are coming.
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
IronPython 1.0 was just released. Coincidence or not?;) Sun is a little slow, but it's good to see that they're coming around.Someone mentioned a wrist-friendly, statically-type inferenced language, especially designed for the JVM (like Boo is for the CLR). That would be great, or how about a little funding love for the Nice language (multi-methods, anonynmous functions, type inference anyone)?
Go Sun Go
This is fantastic. I hope they pick up Jython too.Without a seriously vibrant community around it or corporate support, it's hard to risk your project on them. It's a darned shame because they're such powerful tools.
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
wow! good news! eventhough I dont use JRuby but... at leastSun is doing something and really listen to developers!
GREAT!
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
Isn't that what groovy is supposed to be?Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
AFAIK Java was the first language supported on the JVM...Good to see JRuby being resurrected, looked like an interesting thing to have when I first spotted it a few years ago but as the project seemed dead I rejected it for Jython at the time.
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
The introduction is a little misleading--Sun is not buying JRuby, they are hiring the two core developers who work on it. The licensing will remain the same, and there is nothing to buy, in any case, unless the guys are selling their copyright, which I haven't heard.What seems to have happened is that insiders at Sun (Tim Bray being one) pushed to hire these guys because they were making good progress on JRuby. That's it. Sun is not setting up a JRuby Research Center and there is no JSR for it, etc. Also, note that despite the IronPython news from the last couple of days, the hiring process would have started over a month ago, probably several months ago. And as far as I can tell, Sun has also informally helped various "dynamic" language projects on the JVM.
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
> IronPython 1.0 was just released. Coincidence or> not?;) Sun is a little slow, but it's good to see
> that they're coming around.
Well, IronPython was developed by the same guy who wrote Jython. So, in this respect, Java was miles ahead of .net.
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
Very good news! Good thinking from the side of Sun. I'm surprised. Could be the beginning of a new Smalltalk/Oliver
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
Great piece of news indeed!But my question is: will Sun come too late to become that dreamed plateform for Ruby apps?
Ruby is a fantastic languages, and it's times more productive than java to writte at least the code you manage yourself alone or in very small teams.
But the problem of Ruby is that it's slow. No JIT compilation, no big optimization.
Running ruby on the top of the JVM deserves two goals:
1) integrate legacy EJB with the Rails booster
2) speed up ruby by making JRuby benefit from all the JIT optimizations of Java.
But that second point will only be possible after Sun make the move the InvokeDynamic and co.
The point is that we may see it only in java 7. So my fear is that JRuby will run too slow prior to java 7 to enable wide entreprise acceptance.
I even fear people don't even wait for java 7 and prefer to switch to other ruby implementations that might come sooner (better C implementation? GNU jvm fork? DotNet?) even if they should forget about easy legacy EJB integration.
Anny comment on that will be very much appreciated. Thanks,
Raphael Valyi.
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
> IronPython 1.0 was just released. Coincidence or> not?;) Sun is a little slow, but it's good to see
> that they're coming around.
Well, IronPython was developed by the same guy who wrote Jython. So, in this respect, Java was miles ahead of .net.
Jython was started 3 years (or more) before .NET was even released. Jython's latest NEWS entry was from March of '05. So in any respect, IronPython is miles ahead of Jython.
Thank you, Jan!
I would like to thank Jan Arne Petersen, the founder and original developper of JRuby. JRuby wouldn't exist without your vision and hard work.Five years later, Sun starts to understand the value of dynamic/alternative programming languages for the JVM.
Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
it's great, maybe we will see JRuby On Rails, too !!!Re: Sun Acquires JRuby Project
If you're an Eclipse user, RDT is always an option. Actually, RDT already integrates with JRuby to provide things like code checking.ActiveObjects: an Easier Java ORM; Fuse: Resource Injection for Java